Comments on: two brothers and the blue fin tuna

By: Barb

Barb — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:36:19 +0000

The sentence works “believing falsely [mistakenly, erroneously] that if we care for the sea creatures we must care less for our own kind.” I too think heresy is a strong word. And the error of thinking that love or caring is a zero sum game is one humans tend to make easily–think of every firstborn who fears his or her mom will love him less when she has another child. The point we love the sea/people/anything else because they are loved first by God is what helps us love God first, with heart,mind,and strength and love all else in relation to that.

By: joao

joao — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:10:08 +0000

Belfry,

You may disagree with Jim1234’s response, but hate?

I think you can disagree with people without being hateful.

I personally believe that homosexual acts are sinful, does that make me hateful?

Why is it that nowadays, anytime someone disagrees with the prevailing winds of society they are hateful?

I may disagree with 1234’s take on what Ken has been trying to communicate, but I don’t think he is being hateful.

Hate is much more severe than disagreement.

By: Belfry

Belfry — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:03:22 +0000

Jim1234: Your comment is full of venom. This is not love. This is not respect. This is hate, if I have ever read it.

By: commonman

commonman — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:37:39 +0000

The way I see it as christians we are called to live simply and denounce greed and care for the earth that God created.

I have always found it strange being a christian in the “evangelical camp” that it is seen as a suspicous thing to be an environmentalist or a tree hugger,I realise it is the eschatology that mostly drives this fear and the conservative political agenda.

I say we become real conservatives and start conserving our resources and create sustainable lifestyles that compliment our Christian character. I see this as a way to Love and protect what God has created for us and those that come after.

By: Brian

Brian — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:42:50 +0000

Ken, heresy is a strong word. I’d say way too strong to use on this topic. I think my question a fair and reasonable one. But you disagree, so I’ll go with my question unanswered. I get the feeling I’ll need to get used to that.

BTW, I don’t believe I invited you to denounce anything…I asked you to explain the difference between what you denounce and what you don’t. Subtle difference perhaps, but a difference nonetheless.

By: ken

ken — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:49:56 +0000

brian, there are many things that many pastors for many reasons don’t denounce. I don’t believe in denouncing things because I’m invited to by other pastors. I was writing on this topic, not the other.

By: jim1234

jim1234 — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:41:52 +0000

Apologies to tuna, apologies to Darwin, atheists preaching your Sunday sermons. Sorry Pastor Ken, I’m not one of your sycophants. Have you ever considered apologizing to the real Evangelicals that you mocked and ridiculed, (until your brother in law counseled you)? All the while you’ve peddled your version of Jesus brand spirituality! Somehow the two just don’t jive. One would think that someone who really knew Jesus brand spirituality would know better than to denigrate fellow Christians.

By: Brian

Brian — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:33:19 +0000

“Believing the heresy that if we care for the sea creatures we must care less for our own kind.”

It’s difficult for me to understand how you’ll use the word heresy in the above situation but couldn’t bring yourself to use it in other situations…like when Christians teach that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle for Christians.

Why will you apply it in the one situation but not the other?

By: joao

joao — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:54:30 +0000

No need to scare me further, Ken. I still prefer hugging a cast iron V8 engine block.=)

By: ken

ken — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:41:39 +0000

joao,
Don’t look now, but your honesty is already a massive lowering of the walls. You’ll be hugging trees before long if you keep this up. Don’t say I never warned you.